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Re: Changes for emacs 28

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>
> Is there a way to have both standard Emacs and Doom Emacs available at
> the same time? Is there a way to run the standard Emacs and then make it
> load the Doom code? Where can we find instructions for that?
>

"Doom Emacs" is, in essence, a set of Emacs Lisp files bundled together,
configured so that they interact nicely and coherently.  For example,
smartparens, which-key and magit are part of Doom Emacs, but can be used
(and were developed) independently of Doom Emacs.  The same holds for all
Emacs "distributions", for example Spacemacs or Emacs Prelude.

The Emacs Lisp files contained in these distributions are loaded by Emacs
when it starts and change its look and feel.  What you run is "standard
Emacs", but with a number of non-standard (that is, not distributed with
Emacs) Emacs Lisp files.

>
> Is Doom Emacs user-friendly to long-time Emacs users that would want to
> turn the Doom layer on for only a few minutes each week?
>

That's of course possible.  It suffices to replace one's ~/.emacs.d
directory with the ~/.emacs.d directory of an Emacs distribution (and to
move the ~/.emacs file, if it exists, to another place).  Switching
between several Emacs distributions can probably be achieved with symbolic
links.
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RE: Changes for emacs 28

Drew Adams
> When answering bug reports for a package that is _not_
> in Emacs it's imperative that the reporter uses Emacs -Q + <package
> setup> when explaining the problem.

+1

(Helps, anyway.)

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Re: Changes for emacs 28

Stefan Kangas-2
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Ergus <[hidden email]> writes:

> OTOH: While I use use-packages I have seen leaf and it seems to have
> some interesting things and it is "syntax coherent" in some aspects
> while developed by a single user with all the paperwork done.

Which useful features does leaf provide over use-package?

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Re: Changes for emacs 28

Ergus


On September 9, 2020 12:14:15 AM GMT+02:00, Stefan Kangas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Ergus <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>> OTOH: While I use use-packages I have seen leaf and it seems to have
>> some interesting things and it is "syntax coherent" in some aspects
>> while developed by a single user with all the paperwork done.
>
>Which useful features does leaf provide over use-package?

Just some details. Some coherent syntax, easier extensibility and extra keywords.

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Re: Changes for emacs 28

Eli Zaretskii
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> From: Robert Pluim <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email],  [hidden email],  [hidden email],  [hidden email]
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:56:07 +0200
>
>     Eli> I don't think I understand what that means (never used Gnus, sorry),
>     Eli> and don't remember the details of the issue.  But in general, why
>     Eli> would someone need to set Reply-To to the list address when replying
>     Eli> to a message from the list?  It should be automatic in any sensible
>     Eli> MUA, no?
>
> They wouldnʼt, but apparently Mailman sets 'Reply-To: [hidden email]' on
> Gregory's behalf, which then causes Outlook to respond only to him.

Then maybe Gregory should take this up with GNU folks who oversee the
mailing lists?

Or maybe how should do something to stop Mailman from mangling his
From address?

> In Gnus, when I say 'wide reply', it hoovers up 'From,To,CC,Reply-To',
> so that doesnʼt bother me. I donʼt know what rmail does, hence my
> question.

Rmail does the same, in general.

> Maybe Drew needs a different MUA? :-)

Definitely, but that's out of our control.

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Re: Changes for emacs 28

Alan Third
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 08:45:56PM +0000, Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions. wrote:
> This is not clear at all IMO.  When users choose to use VS Code or Atom or
> Emacs or ..., they choose between a number of free (as in beer) products. In
> such cases I tend to think that marketing plays little if any role, and that
> it's the quality of the product that matters.

One thing I see come up time and again is how so many people believe
that all Emacs users have crippled, arthritic hands because of the use
of modifiers. I'm sure it genuinely puts people off Emacs.

That is "marketing".
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Alan Third