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HyRolo experiments

Xavier Maillard-8
Hello,

HyRolo is part of a fantastic (but very unknown) package named
GNU Hyperbole.

At his heart is the contact management but given the nature of the
free-form edition, I am pretty sure this could be used for other
things than only contact management.

Are there any people who have turned away HyRolo to manage other
things ? If so, would you mind explaining it here ?

Thanks
        - xma

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Re: HyRolo experiments

Tomas Zerolo
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 06:20:07AM +0200, Xavier Maillard wrote:

> Hello,
>
> HyRolo is part of a fantastic (but very unknown) package named
> GNU Hyperbole.
>
> At his heart is the contact management but given the nature of the
> free-form edition, I am pretty sure this could be used for other
> things than only contact management.
>
> Are there any people who have turned away HyRolo to manage other
> things ? If so, would you mind explaining it here ?
Since I didn't know what you're talking about (heck, my wetware spam
filter threw a score of 4.9/5 on the subject ;-) I turned to $search
(no, not Google, no cookies for you :-)

  https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/man/hyperbole.html
  https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HyRolo

So my answer is "no, I haven't, but now there's some reading for
me".

Cheers
-- t

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Re: HyRolo experiments

jonetsu
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:20:07 +0200
Xavier Maillard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> HyRolo is part of a fantastic (but very unknown) package named
> GNU Hyperbole.

The first thing that comes to mind is, how does it differ from orgmode
(eg. what are the benefits) ?


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Tomas Zerolo
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 09:13:08AM -0400, jonetsu wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:20:07 +0200
> Xavier Maillard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > HyRolo is part of a fantastic (but very unknown) package named
> > GNU Hyperbole.
>
> The first thing that comes to mind is, how does it differ from orgmode
> (eg. what are the benefits) ?

Quoting from [1]:
  "In contrast to Org mode, Hyperbole features work across all
   Emacs modes. Hyperbole speeds your work by turning all kinds
   of textual references into clickable hyperlinks"

I won't quote all, because reading yourself is most of the fun ;-)
See also the ref there [2].

The gist seems to be that's not "either/or" but that they rather
complement each other.

Cheers

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/hyperbole.html#summary
[2] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Hyperbole
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Xavier Maillard-8
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:13:08 -0400
> From: jonetsu <[hidden email]>
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:20:07 +0200
> Xavier Maillard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > HyRolo is part of a fantastic (but very unknown) package named
> > GNU Hyperbole.
>
> The first thing that comes to mind is, how does it differ from orgmode
> (eg. what are the benefits) ?

Hard to say since it is a totally different thing ;)

From https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Hyperbole:


From RSW, author of GNU Hyperbole:

People often ask us about the differences between Org mode and
Hyperbole. Although on the surface this comes up a lot, once you use
both of these, you’ll quickly see how different they are. Hyperbole
and Org mode can be used together, e.g. Hyperbole’s Smart Keys work in
Org mode, or separately; there is no need to choose. Here is a
contrast of the two, for those interested.

   - Org-mode is a major-mode that works on structured files built
     atop Emacs outlining mode.
   - Hyperbole is a system that spans across much of Emacs’
     functionality, providing quick access keys and hyperbuttons
     wherever needed.

    - Org-mode’s outliner is like Emacs outliner.
    - Hyperbole’s Koutliner is unique; every node/paragraph has a
      unique id and settable attributes plus a relative id that is
      auto-updated as you move trees around the outline, so you know
      that node 2b4 is a child of 2b and is the next sibling of the
      2b3 node.

    - Org-mode has explicit hyperlinks that you create and a limited
      form of implicit links (links recognized contextually from just
      the text of a file).
    - Hyperbole has these too, allowing you to create them in any type
      of text file, with simple drags between windows. But Hyperbole
      also recognizes hyperlinks embedded in many different types of
      files and buffers and can easily support new types. You simply
      press one button and Hyperbole figures out what to do in dozens
      of contexts.

    - Org-mode manages todos, time entries and some basic project
      management.
    - Hyperbole does none of this but allows you to integrate with
      whatever other tools you like, including Org mode’s tools.

    - Org-mode doesn’t have any contact management builtin, only
      through add-on packages.
    - Hyperbole has an integrated, fast, effective hierarchical
      contact manager.

    - Org-mode does nothing with your buffers, windows and frames
      since it is just a major mode.
    - Hyperbole has a fast, thoughtfully designed window and frame
      manager that lets you quickly arrange your Emacs artifacts as
      you like. Eventually, these window and frame configurations will
      be saveable and will be able to be the target of links, so you
      can have quick access buttons that arrange things for different
      work tasks (similar to Workspaces but integrated with all of
      Hyperbole’s other features).

    - Org-mode does nothing for quick management of large, existing
      libraries of information.
    - Hyperbole helps organize, link, search and retrieve libraries of
      any kind of text files.

    Hyperbole also has features that speed code browsing and
    structured code editing and support for using the mouse keys as
    Control and Meta modifiers so you can point and operate on screen
    entities quickly.


        - xma

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