>> From: Peter Dambier <[hidden email]>
>> Date: June 5, 2005 12:34:18 PM GMT+02:00
>> To: [hidden email] >> Cc: Marc Manthey <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Is there life after DNS?
>> Reply-To: [hidden email] >>
>> Hi all,
>> did you ever ask yourself that question?
>> With 2369 domains we have the best root. We are the frontier. We
>> have to think
>> what comes after DNS.
>> ICANN does not face that frontier. They used to have 250 Domains
>> but they lost
>> one. No they are back to 249. They cannot go up to 250 again
>> because the
>> next domain they want to introduse is "xxx." and that gets
>> filtered and
>> accused on most servers they use because they are owned by
>> It just happened to me and several others on NANOG. :)
>> IPv6 will be a challenge. No normal human beeing thinks of typing
>> in IPv6
>> addresses. Cut and paste, maybe - but typing, no! IPv6 will break
>> There are nameservers behind firewalls that dont allow tpc
>> connections to the
>> namesevers. IPv6 addresses will break packet borders and they will
>> break these nameservers.
>> You dont need IPv6? Ipv4 is good enuf for you?
>> Joe and me, we have seen IPv9 working. Stay with your old IPv4
>> machines and let
>> governements decide what is good for you. Send your emails to the
>> and let them decide what is spam. They are looking forward to
>> reading and maybe
>> forwarding or not your emails. Who needs to run a mailserver
>> anyhow. Dont you
>> think its a good idea of the goverment to close port 25 forwarding?
>> If you dont think so read on!
>> Today we have to worlds a host might live in. There are some good
>> guys running
>> servers running important machines with fixed addresses. They make
>> up the world
>> of DNS. Everybody can ask DNS for their addresses and maybe their
>> And then we have hosts like yours and mine connected via NAT-
>> routers to dsl- or
>> cable-modems or to good old pots via good old modems. Whenever I
>> connect to the
>> internet I get a new ip. An ip that somebody else might have used
>> for sending
>> spam the I cannot use it for sending emails. An ip that nobody
>> knows not even me.
>> If I dont disconnect and reconnect my provider will do that for me
>> once every
>> 24 hours. That is the world of P2P users and services like no-
>> ip.com .
>> How do these hosts know eachother? How do they find eachother. How
>> do they
>> connect? How do they identify?
>> There is live outside DNS. I have met them.
>> Before we had DNS there was /etc/hosts and there still is NIS. NIS
>> + might have
>> become DNS but SUN has given up. It does not scale up.
>> Still there is P2P. It is losely connected to DNS by services like
>> Does P2P really need static ip addresses?.
>> The DSLAM the concentrator and router I am connected to, manages
>> some 4K addresses.
>> To find echnaton.serveftp.com just try 4K ip addresses and you
>> have got me.
>> If only 100 hosts of those 4K possible addresses in the voicinity
>> of frankfurt on
>> main, germany had a P2P-nameservice running you would only have to
>> ask 40 addresses
>> to get me.
>> You got me?
>> Have a nice weekend
>> Peter and Karin Dambier
dear list members,
due to the massive influence from tycoon firms,
and the ongoing software patents disscussion
in europe and the pressure from the
http://www.mpaa.org/ on bittorrent users
i think there is a strong need for "Opencuseeme"
the first free peer2peer multiconferencing tool.
please join we need some helping hands